How to pay Chinese suppliers by T/T payment (bank transfer) - QualityInspection.org (2023)

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What is T/T payment? How to make T/T payment? What is the most common payment term requested from Chinese suppliers? What is another common and best payment term? How to negotiate better payment terms? How to get help from a financial institution? frequent questions Tips and tricks for T/T payment process What mistakes should we never make? The supplier says that he first needs a deposit to buy one of the components, which must be ordered 3 months in advance. It's true? What to do when an Alibaba supplier asks for payment by TT? Shall we place an order? Does that count as a contract? Should we pay suppliers in USD or RMB (China's currency)? My bank tells me that I am sending money in CNY (RMB) to a provider in Chinacheaperthan send it in USD. Do you advise? Do you recommend using FOB Incoterms if shipping by sea? When should the "deposit" (or "initial payment") be sent to the provider? Our bank charges us a lot for an international transfer. Is there a cheaper alternative? What about payments to service providers? Can a bank transfer be “lost” in the system? Why is this procedure (SWIFT) so inefficient? common problems Are there common scams we should be aware of? The supplier says that he received less than what we transferred to him. How is that possible? Our provider requires payments to be transferred to a personal account. That is a problem? Our provider asks to send the payments to another company. That is a problem? About the negotiations Why do suppliers in China, Vietnam or India always require payment before receiving our products? Is the deposit amount (before production) negotiable? Do all component suppliers have to be paid in advance? Our supplier asks us to pay the remaining 70% before shipping the merchandise. It is dangerous? Can we negotiate 100% paid after receiving the products? Do you have any questions about T/T payments? Need help getting the right terms with your suppliers? Ultimate Guide to Sourcing and Developing Your Suppliers in China [eBook]

T/T payment is a common way to pay Chinese suppliers, but what is this payment method, how is it done, and what are frequently asked questions for importers about the process? If you are willing to pay a supplier, what other payment terms could you negotiate with him?

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What is T/T payment?

T/T Payment means "Telegraphic Transfer". In other words, an international money transfer from the buyer's bank to the seller's bank.

When a Chinese supplier requests a T/T payment, what they really mean is that they want a bank transfer. (Technically, a T/T payment is not the same as a bank transfer viaSistema SWIFT, but the vast majority of people think they are the same).

A SWIFT-based bank transfer is the most common payment method for international trade with Asian countries. Processing usually takes 3-5 business days and usually costs between $25-$50, depending on the agreement with your bank's business department.

How to make T/T payment?

Contact the commercial department of your bank and tell them that you need to transfer (for example) $25,000 to a company in China and they will usually give you a form to fill out. If you make frequent T/T payments, your bank probably has an "Internet Banking" application that will save you time.

Your provider will likely send you a proforma invoice that includes your bank account information. I strongly recommend that you request this information early (as part of your pre-qualification of a potential supplier). Many buyers weretricked by hackerssend invoices with your own bank details...

I recorded a short video showing how to fill out a T/T payment request form:

Once you've done that, take a screenshot or get a digital copy and send it to your provider.

Important tips:

  • Be careful to avoid misspellings that can cause the money order to hang for weeks!
  • You need to write your company name in English, not Chinese. Don't try to do your own translation work, even if your written Chinese is excellent! It must exactly match the English name on the seller's bank records.
  • If the company name is too long, continue typing in the "Address 1" field. This is sometimes mentioned in the T/T payment forms of banks that do a lot of business with China:

What is the most common payment term requested from Chinese suppliers?

The most common payment method is bank transfer, which works like this:

  1. Let the vendor develop samples until you're sure they know exactly what you want.
  2. They send 30% deposit (by T/T payment) before production starts.
  3. Your supplier (the manufacturer and exporter) purchases the components and/or materials and arranges production
  4. They work with a quality assurance company to verify the quality of the product (this is optional, but generally a good idea).
  5. You send the balance 70% (via T/T payment) before shipment.
  6. The supplier ships the goods and sends you the documents by courier.

Graphically it looks like this:

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What is another common and best payment term?

It's more or less the same except for the end of the process.

  • Once the supplier confirms that the products are ready, send an inspector to check the quality (again, not required, but highly recommended).
  • If the quality is good, release the goods (allow the goods to be shipped); this works best if you bought on FOB terms
  • Once the merchandise is on the ship, the supplier receives the bill of lading (B/L) and sends you a copy
  • If the product name, quantity, etc. are correct on the bill of lading, send the balance payment to the supplier
  • Once the supplier receives the payment, they will send you the original B/L

Does it look like this:

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because it is better

  • The buyer knows that the merchandise has been shipped before paying the rest.
  • The supplier is aware that the buyer can only take possession of the goods after sending the original bill of lading.

Can this term be negotiated? If you insist on it from the start and your vendors are motivated to work with you, then probably yes. If you seem like a beginner and your orders are too small, probably not.

How to negotiate better payment terms?

There are several ways to negotiate payment for part (or all) of the amount after shipping.

  • Your company is well established and famous.– Think Apple or Disney. The risk of bankruptcy for the buyer is much lower. They can work with relatively large manufacturers that have the facilities to easily finance their working capital. And the salesperson wants to brag to that prestigious client to get more business, so he usually wants to make an effort.
  • Do you have a purchasing office in China?– Having a strong presence in the country helps. A vendor who hasn't been paid on time may visit you and take various steps to encourage you to pay faster (especially if your Chinese office contracts with them) so you feel less at risk. In our experience, we can often negotiate when we help our clients by paying their suppliers.0% deposit and 100% after shipment at the end of the monthwith providers.

How to get help from a financial institution?

There are two ways financial institutions (some banks, but also some fintech startups) can help you:

  • You can get financing for your suppliers— If you, the buyer, have a healthy balance sheet and regularly buy from a particular supplier, you can work with a financial institution that will advance your supplier a good chunk of the money while you can pay later (in some cases) . , 90 days after filing!) This used to be possible only for large companies, but lately I've heard of options for smaller companies.
  • You can borrow money for a period of time to finance your orders.. This type of loan is usually granted by the same financial entities that I mentioned in the previous point.

Please contact me if you need more information on how to make T/T payment. We don't offer this service, but we can probably point you in the right direction.

frequent questions

Tips and tricks for T/T payment process

What mistakes should we never make?

Here are two big don'ts:

  • You should never prepay 100% of the order before production begins. We have seen buyers make this mistake and deeply regret it. Once this is done, what drives the factory to work so hard to deliver good products to you on time? You will be his last priority...
  • You should never send the deposit before making sure the factory knows what you want from them. Smart buyers place orders, get a sample and confirm what they want (after mass production), then submit payment in advance. In some cases, you may need

The supplier says that he first needs a deposit to buy one of the components, which must be ordered 3 months in advance. It's true?

could be true if it happens If possible, get all the information about this supplier, price of the product, etc.

In this case, it is usually possible to negotiate the amount to be paid at the time of purchase. Not necessarily 100%, but often. And make sure how much you will have to pay later for deposit (before production).

What to do when an Alibaba supplier asks for payment by TT?

If you found them on Alibaba, Global Sources, Made In China or other similar directories, it doesn't change anything. If you pay by bank transfer, what I wrote at the beginning of this article applies.

Shall we place an order? Does that count as a contract?

Your provider will at least send you their proforma invoice and ask you to confirm it. Of course, they come with their own terms, so we recommend placing your own purchase orders.

However, an order is not a contract. It is difficult to sue a dishonest Chinese supplier based on an order. What you need is a sales or manufacturing contract (and make sure it's enforceable in China).

Should we pay suppliers in USD or RMB (China's currency)?

Both are usually fine (until the negotiation between you and them). The "default" is payment in USD, but more and more buyers choose to transfer RMB. This can be useful if your bank offers this option. I wrote about the reasons here.why many companies pay their chinese suppliers in RMB.

My bank tells me that I am sending money in CNY (RMB) to a provider in Chinacheaperthan send it in USD. Do you advise?

Sometimes it doesn't work when you select this option. We have seen many projects postponed in this way.
So we suggest you ask a bank teller if this is something they are used to and will work well.
And of course, you also need to make sure that the provider has provided you with a bank account that accepts CNY from an international source.
Note: More and more companies regularly pay their suppliers in CNY. It is part of a larger system. Quotes are in CNY, payments are in CNY, etc. i wrote about itHere.

Do you recommend using FOB Incoterms if shipping by sea?

If you buy products from a Chinese company, do what most other buyers do: buy under Incoterm FOB ("Load On Board"). This means that you name the carrier (or directly the shipping company) that will be in charge of international transport.

As we suggested above, you don't want the supplier to ship the products before a final quality check. If you are purchasing FOB, shipping can only take place after your carrier has authorized the "Shipping Order" to your supplier.

More information on this topic can be found atThis post about negotiations.

When should the "deposit" (or "initial payment") be sent to the provider?

Generally, a deposit will not be transferred as T/T payment (or open L/C) until the samples are approved.
If the vendor asks for payment up front to do a "feasibility study" or "prototyping" job, that might make sense. However, keep it separate from the warehouse and let the supplier commit to the agreed performance.

Our bank charges us a lot for an international transfer. Is there a cheaper alternative?

If your bank charges $40 or more and transfers take 4-5 business days to complete, you're working with a traditional bank that follows an outdated system (SWIFT was developed in the 1970s). That should change in the next few years with cryptocurrencies like XRP, but other solutions currently exist.
Some of our clients have used alternative solutions and seem satisfied with these services. Depending on your situation, they may be able to offer you a better deal than your traditional bank. Here are some examples:

# When making payments from your country

  • Wise.com: Founded to compete head-to-head with traditional banks on T/T payments. It became quite popular. In early 2020, they added the ability to send money to an Alipay account (but I strongly discourage payments to personal accounts).
  • Contador- very useful for raising money on marketplaces like Amazon. Sending money to another company that has its own Payoneer account is fast and cheap.
  • Revolution– so far seems more aimed at European consumers and businesses. Fantastic value for specific use.

# If you can make payments from Hong Kong
The previous options are still valid, but also:

  • GoRemit— a good option if you have a business in Hong Kong and want to send money in local currency to providers in China or Southeast Asia. Very easy to use. It can also be used to top up a Wechat or Alipay account!
  • If your Chinese suppliers accept payments in Hong Kong, you can open a merchant account there and make local transfers (instant and cheap).Saubermay help if you want to set this up.

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What about payments to service providers?

how we write"How do I pay a service provider based in Hong Kong or China?", there are different possibilities.
If the amount is small, more Paypal is used.
For amounts above 300-400 USD, bank transfers (T/T) start to make more sense.

Can a bank transfer be “lost” in the system?

I have never heard of a transaction being lost forever (i.e. never arriving, even after honest investigation), but I have heard of many transactions "disappearing" for a while. The whole SWIFT system is a bit clunky. It would happen like this:

  1. The debtor's bank processes the payment request
  2. The beneficiary's bank does not record the money received
  3. Beneficiary asks the bank itself to investigate and finds no information
  4. The payee asks the payer to ask their own bank to investigate and finds a problem that prevented the transfer

Depending on the responsiveness of the two banks, the resolution of such a situation can take up to 2 months!

Why is this procedure (SWIFT) so inefficient?

how we write“International payment for Chinese factories”:
SWIFT was originally created in 1973, long before the invention of the Internet. When sending money abroad, there is no need to move the physical assets. Instead, SWIFT acts as a messaging system between banks to clarify ownership of assets on their books.

Euros are debited from your account and exchanged for you by your bank on the foreign exchange markets to receive USD. Or smaller banks outsource this process to larger institutes. The USD is then sent to your provider's bank via a correspondent bank that actually owns the USD. Chinese suppliers often maintain offshore accounts, which means that in order to pay for their costs in China (raw materials, wages, rent), that money must be sent to an offshore bank. Here, too, a correspondent bank often intervenes.But the process does not end here. The USD must be traded on the Chinese foreign exchange markets before the RMB is finally available to the provider. And when a shipment arrives in China from abroad, the supplier has to physically go to a bank branch to pick it up. This includes a lot of paperwork, stamps, and signatures.

common problems

Are there common scams we should be aware of?

Yeah! Some hackers regularly collect payments from buyers who send transfers to the wrong accounts. You can read7 tips to avoid this scam here.

The supplier says that he received less than what we transferred to him. How is that possible?

This happens often. Here are the typical steps behind it for a hypothetical sum of $5,000:

  1. The payer's bank is instructed to transfer $5,000 and charges a fee of $25. The payer has lost $5,025.
  2. The payer's bank chooses to work with an intermediary bank that has a direct “channel” to send the money to the payee's bank. This intermediary charges $25.
  3. The beneficiary's bank receives $4,975 and the beneficiary's bank charges $10, which means that the beneficiary ends up receiving $4,965.
  4. The total cost of the payment (for both parties) is $60, which is 1.2% of $5,000.

(Note that $25 fees generally range from $20 to $40, but there are no hard and fast rules here. Check with your bank's business department beforehand.)

Our provider requires payments to be transferred to a personal account. That is a problem?

Request an invoice requesting payment to the company's account. If you are transferring money to a personal account, it is much more difficult to take action against them if they later fail you.

If they insist on paying to a personal account, there may be several reasons:

  • The purchase amount is very small (eg 1000 USD) and it doesn't make sense for them to do all the paperwork of converting your USD to RMB etc.
  • You don't want to declare it to avoid tax. This is not comforting, but it is still very common in China. Don't expect this company to become a perfect provider over time.

Our provider asks to send the payments to another company. That is a problem?

Not necessarily. Once again, there could be several reasons. You could hire a Hong Kong company to avoid declaring (and paying tax) the sale in China, they may not haveexport license, and/or it may be much more convenient for you to receive payments and carry out all export procedures under another company.

As I wrote above, it is more difficult for you to sue your provider because you cannot show any trace of payment from their company to yours.

What can you do? At a minimum, it requires both companies (your supplier - "A" and the one receiving the payments - "B") to jointly sign and seal a statement stating that B is collecting payments on behalf of A and that A is the sole supplier of your company.

About the negotiations

Why do suppliers in China, Vietnam or India always require payment before receiving our products?

For three reasons:

  • They know it's a "standard" and suspect that you, the buyer, will have a hard time finding a better deal.
  • They need money to pay their suppliers, most of whom do not offer credit.
  • You've heard many stories of buyers who gambled away and managed to pay less for their production, or even canceled after the production ended without paying anything, for good reasons (poor quality) or bad reasons (disappointing sales, low liquidity, etc.). )

Is the deposit amount (before production) negotiable?

If the supplier finds your project interesting in the medium to long term and the manufacturer has enough cash to order and pay for the components, yes, this is usually negotiable.

If your production is highly customized and (in the unfortunate event of order cancellation) difficult to sell to another customer, it will be difficult to negotiate a lower deposit. It is a risk prevention measure.

Do all component suppliers have to be paid in advance?

It depends on the industry, the business relationship, your market power, etc.:

  • Some always do.
  • Some do it when they lack confidence, but give credit (usually 10-30 days or enough time for the assembler to complete production and ship the products) when they feel the risk is limited.

Our supplier asks us to pay the remaining 70% before shipping the merchandise. It is dangerous?

Unfortunately this is quite common. In general, if a quality control agency confirms the quantity and quality of your products, the risk of paying before shipment is relatively low. Few companies cheat their suppliers after completing all production.

Can we negotiate 100% paid after receiving the products?

I have heard of companies in the US or Europe that have been able to negotiate such deals. Here is your situation:

  • They buy in relatively large quantities and are not very strict about prices (i.e. they are attractive to suppliers)
  • Buy standard products for which there is strong competition.
  • They ask between 50 and 200 potential suppliers if they would be open to this type of business; they keep talking to the 5% who say they might be interested; do business with 1 or 2 of them

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*Editor's Note: This post was originally published in 2012 and has since been updated to include new information and formatting.

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